Comments on: copyright, bullshit, and good manners http://www.daniellelaporte.com/business-wealth-articles/copyright-bullshit-and-good-manners/ Mon, 30 Jan 2012 02:09:56 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: follow up to the copyright bullshit experience | White Hot Truth: because self-realization rocks. http://www.daniellelaporte.com/business-wealth-articles/copyright-bullshit-and-good-manners/#comment-1906 follow up to the copyright bullshit experience | White Hot Truth: because self-realization rocks. Tue, 07 Jul 2009 08:05:26 +0000 http://www.daniellelaporte.com/?p=5141#comment-1906 [...] of you asked me to update you on the outcome from my post: copyright, bullshit, and good manners, whereby I explained the kooky-litigious letter I received from the Strategic Coach, Inc. [...] [...] of you asked me to update you on the outcome from my post: copyright, bullshit, and good manners, whereby I explained the kooky-litigious letter I received from the Strategic Coach, Inc. [...]

]]> By: Catherine Nomura http://www.daniellelaporte.com/business-wealth-articles/copyright-bullshit-and-good-manners/#comment-1905 Catherine Nomura Mon, 08 Jun 2009 17:46:07 +0000 http://www.daniellelaporte.com/?p=5141#comment-1905 Your reaction is completely justified, and your points are right on. As someone who actually works with Dan Sullivan, I happen to know that the letter you received was generated as a result of an employee making an error in judgment, and unfortunately, failing to consult anyone else before acting. As you can imagine, she is quite mortified by the result, now that she sees the mistake she made (normally, only infringements of the kind Shawn Phillips was talking about above come across her desk, and when your post showed up there, she didn't think it through enough to realize it was a completely different situation that should have been passed on to someone who could have sent you the appropriate thank you). Certainly, Strategic Coach and Dan Sullivan do not believe in treating people who praise them so rudely. We would never have been able to grow our company through referrals to serve over 13,000 entrepreneurs over the past 20 years if this were the case. Though all this was in the personal email I sent you last week, I felt it important to add it to the thread so others could know the true story. People make mistakes. This was a big one. "Progress, not perfection," Dan Sullivan would say. We're sorry that it happened but we hope some good learning comes out of it for others as it has for us. Thanks to your post, this will probably be the case. Your reaction is completely justified, and your points are right on. As someone who actually works with Dan Sullivan, I happen to know that the letter you received was generated as a result of an employee making an error in judgment, and unfortunately, failing to consult anyone else before acting. As you can imagine, she is quite mortified by the result, now that she sees the mistake she made (normally, only infringements of the kind Shawn Phillips was talking about above come across her desk, and when your post showed up there, she didn't think it through enough to realize it was a completely different situation that should have been passed on to someone who could have sent you the appropriate thank you). Certainly, Strategic Coach and Dan Sullivan do not believe in treating people who praise them so rudely. We would never have been able to grow our company through referrals to serve over 13,000 entrepreneurs over the past 20 years if this were the case. Though all this was in the personal email I sent you last week, I felt it important to add it to the thread so others could know the true story. People make mistakes. This was a big one. "Progress, not perfection," Dan Sullivan would say. We're sorry that it happened but we hope some good learning comes out of it for others as it has for us. Thanks to your post, this will probably be the case.

]]> By: Zenlihood http://www.daniellelaporte.com/business-wealth-articles/copyright-bullshit-and-good-manners/#comment-1904 Zenlihood Tue, 02 Jun 2009 00:31:01 +0000 http://www.daniellelaporte.com/?p=5141#comment-1904 Simply amazing. Nothing better to do than search for content related to a product and then threaten legal action. They ought to remember and be thankful in that there is no such thing as *bad* publicity, not to mention that you were promoting the product with words of praise, etc. If anything, this sort of *legal* [mis]representation is surely a reason to NOT BUY THEIR PRODUCT(S). Obviously charging too much in order to afford a legal team. Simply amazing. Nothing better to do than search for content related to a product and then threaten legal action. They ought to remember and be thankful in that there is no such thing as bad publicity, not to mention that you were promoting the product with words of praise, etc. If anything, this sort of legal [mis]representation is surely a reason to NOT BUY THEIR PRODUCT. Obviously charging too much in order to afford a legal team.

]]> By: Danielle LaPorte http://www.daniellelaporte.com/business-wealth-articles/copyright-bullshit-and-good-manners/#comment-1903 Danielle LaPorte Wed, 20 May 2009 17:35:16 +0000 http://www.daniellelaporte.com/?p=5141#comment-1903 ha! yes...will work on my invoice right now. ha! yes...will work on my invoice right now.

]]> By: Ava http://www.daniellelaporte.com/business-wealth-articles/copyright-bullshit-and-good-manners/#comment-1902 Ava Wed, 20 May 2009 04:50:40 +0000 http://www.daniellelaporte.com/?p=5141#comment-1902 The Bayer thing reminds me of something I saw on a documentary once about how lawsuit-happy society has become...a woman in Scotland had opened a small bakery which she called "McMunchies" because she liked how it sounded, and she's Scottish. McDonald's threatened to sue if she didn't change the name, because it was food-related and began with "Mc". Long story short, the head of Clan McDonald found out and basically told 'em if they followed through with the suit he'd slap THEM with one, for not getting permission to use his name. The Bayer thing reminds me of something I saw on a documentary once about how lawsuit-happy society has become...a woman in Scotland had opened a small bakery which she called "McMunchies" because she liked how it sounded, and she's Scottish. McDonald's threatened to sue if she didn't change the name, because it was food-related and began with "Mc". Long story short, the head of Clan McDonald found out and basically told 'em if they followed through with the suit he'd slap THEM with one, for not getting permission to use his name.

]]> By: Me http://www.daniellelaporte.com/business-wealth-articles/copyright-bullshit-and-good-manners/#comment-1901 Me Tue, 19 May 2009 23:09:35 +0000 http://www.daniellelaporte.com/?p=5141#comment-1901 What does your gender bias have to do with the topic again? What does your gender bias have to do with the topic again?

]]> By: Adria http://www.daniellelaporte.com/business-wealth-articles/copyright-bullshit-and-good-manners/#comment-1900 Adria Tue, 19 May 2009 22:47:40 +0000 http://www.daniellelaporte.com/?p=5141#comment-1900 Really powerful stuff here. People amaze me. Keep up the good work, Danielle. you are ever inspiring and encouraging. F the naysayers. Really powerful stuff here. People amaze me. Keep up the good work, Danielle. you are ever inspiring and encouraging. F the naysayers.

]]> By: Adria http://www.daniellelaporte.com/business-wealth-articles/copyright-bullshit-and-good-manners/#comment-1899 Adria Tue, 19 May 2009 22:46:46 +0000 http://www.daniellelaporte.com/?p=5141#comment-1899 NICE! NICE!

]]> By: Lara Kulpa http://www.daniellelaporte.com/business-wealth-articles/copyright-bullshit-and-good-manners/#comment-1898 Lara Kulpa Tue, 19 May 2009 22:27:46 +0000 http://www.daniellelaporte.com/?p=5141#comment-1898 Amazingly wonderful reaction on your part, and I think the only thing that could've made it better would be for you to send them a rate card for your consulting services. LOL Amazingly wonderful reaction on your part, and I think the only thing that could've made it better would be for you to send them a rate card for your consulting services. LOL

]]> By: Shawn Phillips http://www.daniellelaporte.com/business-wealth-articles/copyright-bullshit-and-good-manners/#comment-1897 Shawn Phillips Tue, 19 May 2009 22:02:09 +0000 http://www.daniellelaporte.com/?p=5141#comment-1897 Danielle, Good for you for putting this out there and lighting a while hot fire under it. I know Dan... and like and respect him. That doesn't mean he's either comfortable or in tune with the reality today that is, as you state, Global Brain. And as a person who is also prolific at IP creation, I understand the need and desire to protect it when someone is attempting a blatant rip-off or ... what have you but when you or anyone is using a reference to a system or IP and especially when singing praises. Well, enough said... MADNESS. Of course, there's a good chance Dan doesn't even know about this... just sayin'. I've had more than my fill of IP and TM issues lately so count me in the fight for freedom. I love Dan's FREE DAYS inside the system but the idea that anyone owns the use of two words put together is asinine at best. I've had the great pleasure of first running it off with Lance Armstrong Foundation for a tag line which neither was inspired from this stuff nor could be confused with... simply being over protective for they were moving into my field of Performance Nutrition... ironically, after a day of consulting I gifted. Hummm... Then Bayer, the giant drug company, tells me I can't use my last name any more... Phillips, for they own some white tasteless 100 year old magnesium powder that they feel I'd be confused with!!! GTFO !!! I've been in Nutrition for over 20 years and my family name has weight... you don't take it from me. Of course, while I'd win the case I'd lose the war for the money they'd happily drain me of... Keep on writing and fighting! In Strength, Shawn PHILLIPS Danielle,

Good for you for putting this out there and lighting a while hot fire under it.

I know Dan... and like and respect him. That doesn't mean he's either comfortable or in tune with the reality today that is, as you state, Global Brain.

And as a person who is also prolific at IP creation, I understand the need and desire to protect it when someone is attempting a blatant rip-off or ... what have you but when you or anyone is using a reference to a system or IP and especially when singing praises. Well, enough said... MADNESS.

Of course, there's a good chance Dan doesn't even know about this... just sayin'.

I've had more than my fill of IP and TM issues lately so count me in the fight for freedom. I love Dan's FREE DAYS inside the system but the idea that anyone owns the use of two words put together is asinine at best.

I've had the great pleasure of first running it off with Lance Armstrong Foundation for a tag line which neither was inspired from this stuff nor could be confused with... simply being over protective for they were moving into my field of Performance Nutrition... ironically, after a day of consulting I gifted. Hummm...

Then Bayer, the giant drug company, tells me I can't use my last name any more... Phillips, for they own some white tasteless 100 year old magnesium powder that they feel I'd be confused with!!! GTFO !!!

I've been in Nutrition for over 20 years and my family name has weight... you don't take it from me. Of course, while I'd win the case I'd lose the war for the money they'd happily drain me of...

Keep on writing and fighting!

In Strength,
Shawn PHILLIPS

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